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“The problem with debates about homosexuality is they have been devoid of any linguistic discipline that might give you some indication what is at stake. Methodism, for example, is more concerned with being inclusive than being the church. We do not have the slightest idea what we mean by being inclusive other than some vague idea that inclusivity has something to do with being accepting and loving. Inclusivity is, of course, a necessary strategy for survival in what is religiously a buyers’ market. Even worse, the inclusive church is captured by romantic notions of marriage. Combine inclusivity and romanticism and you have no reason to deny marriage between gay people.
When couples come to ministers to talk about their marriage ceremonies, ministers think it’s interesting to ask if they love one another. What a stupid question! How would they know? A Christian marriage isn’t about whether you’re in love. Christian marriage is giving you the practice of fidelity over a lifetime in which you can look back upon the marriage and call it love. It is a hard discipline over many years.
The difficulty, therefore, is that Christians, when they approach this issue, no longer know what marriage is. For centuries, Christians married people who didn’t know one another until the marriage ceremony, and we knew they were going to have sex that night. They didn’t know one another. Where does all this love stuff come from? They could have sex because they were married.
Now, when marriage becomes a mutually enhancing arrangement until something goes wrong, then it makes no sense at all to oppose homosexual marriages. If marriage is a calling that makes promises of lifelong monogamous fidelity in which children are welcomed, then we’ve got a problem. But we can’t even get to a discussion there, because Christians no longer practice Christian marriage.
What has made it particularly hard is that the divorce culture has made it impossible for us to talk about these matters–and many of you know, I’m divorced and remarried. It has made it impossible for us to talk about these matters with an honesty and candor that is required if you are not to indulge in self-deceptive, sentimental lies.
For gay Christians who I know and love, I wish we as Christians could come up with some way to help them, like we need to help one another, to avoid the sexual wilderness in which we live. That’s a worthy task. I probably sound like a conservative on these matters, not because I’ve got some deep animosity toward gay people, but because I don’t know how to go forward given the current marriage practices of our culture.”
” — Stanley Hauerwas(Source: dukemagazine.duke.edu)
“Ask yourself: If that is what Jesus is all about—getting us to love one another—why did everyone reject him? They did so, I think, because when Jesus was told by the devil he would be given the power to turn stones to bread, he refused; when Jesus was offered authority over all the kingdoms of this world, he refused; when he was offered the possibility he would not die, he refused. Note that Jesus was offered the means to feed the hungry, the authority to end war between peoples, and even the defeat of death itself. But he refused these goods. He did so because Jesus knows God’s kingdom cannot be forced into existence with the devil’s means.” — Stanley Hauerwas,
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“We are so concerned to say at once, if anyone even suggests such an idea, that we are imperfect, weak, frail, that we fail and sin and fear and fall. And of course all that is true. But read Paul again, read John again, and discover that we are cracked vessels full of glory, wounded healers. God forgive us that we have imagined true humanness, after the Enlightenment model, to mean being successful, having it all together, knowing all the answers, never making mistakes, striding through the world as though we owned it. The living God revealed his glory in Jesus and never more clearly than when he died on the cross, crying out that he had been forsaken. When we stand in pain and prayer, following Christ and reshaping our world, we are not only discovering what it means to be truly human, we are discovering the true meaning of what the Eastern Orthodox Church refers to as “divinization.” — N.T. Wright, The Challenge of Easter
“There is no reason for fear because the worst thing imaginable already happened - God died. But overcame through resurrection. The gospels are full of apocalyptic language to describe the death and resurrection of Jesus. That’s because when Jesus was resurrected, the world itself fundamentally changed. The cosmos was altered. Our task at Easter is not to change the world, but to wake people up to see that resurrection has changed the world already.” — Jonathan Martin
“Sin is living as if there were no God, no grace of God, no creation to remember or kingdom to hope for, no forgiveness to redeem the past or eternal life to focus the future, no faith, no hope, no love. It is living outside the narrative of God - without regard to the creation, the covenant with Israel, the revelation in Christ, the existence of the church, the consummation on the last day - and making one’s own narrative instead.” — Sam Wells (via invisibleforeigner)
Thanks to every single one of you who came to the shows. My favorite tour yet. Photo: Jeremy Larson (Taken with instagram)
Seeing them now has become like going to see an old friend who keeps growing and getting better upon each visit. Can’t wait for the next one. Fantastic show!
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“”I’ve tried the moral argument [against war and empire], [and] I’ve tried the Constitutional argument, and neither seems to go very far. … But I’ll tell you what, I will win this argument for economic reasons. … We had better wake up because we are destroying our currency and we’re bankrupting this country.” — Ron Paul - CNN Arizona Debate (link to video of Ron Paul Debate Highlights) (h/t Ricardo)
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The only one that really matters.
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